tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9045462.post115312930227616662..comments2023-09-05T18:37:20.023+03:00Comments on Nafka Mina: Lies, Lies and More LiesSharvulhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04287632945558341969noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9045462.post-1155927783378374382006-08-18T22:03:00.000+03:002006-08-18T22:03:00.000+03:00Well, where are the naysayers now? I haven't read ...Well, where are the naysayers <I>now</I>? I haven't read the comment right when they were written, but here we all knew that. It was clear to us here, yet this author put it so eloquently, so straightforward, so simple and so clear that no one was justified not to understand him. Unfortunately we are now witnessing zionism's self-destruction that was predicted by the anti-zionist rabbis from the beginning of the century until the '50es. <BR/>The Israelis refuse to defend themselves, and will continue doing so as long as they deny or distory their Jewish identity. Jewish culture and Jewish religion are inseparable. And as long as their grip of the country is rooted in something they don't practice, and many outright deride, they will fail to protect it - for how can you protect something if you reject the document that grants you its ownership?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9045462.post-1153842117837865182006-07-25T18:41:00.000+03:002006-07-25T18:41:00.000+03:00"We are fighting to get the kidnapped soldiers bac..."We are fighting to get the kidnapped soldiers back."<BR/>there were many instances in the past were Isreal refused to negotiate, they are now realizing that if they do (its about 4000 for 2)anytime they want anything they will kidnap some Isreali's, so that is not an option. Thus, your claim that they are not fighting for the abducted soldiers (bec. if they wanted them back, they would negotiate) is not correct. Admittedly, once they did start fighting it may be for other reasons too, bit the main cause remains the abducted soldiers, well and now the missles too.in8paradoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01195501209384524603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9045462.post-1153393910887283172006-07-20T14:11:00.000+03:002006-07-20T14:11:00.000+03:00Anonymous - I couldn't disagree more. God help us ...Anonymous - I couldn't disagree more. God help us if we put our fate in the hands of the UN.Sharvulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04287632945558341969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9045462.post-1153393304917602882006-07-20T14:01:00.000+03:002006-07-20T14:01:00.000+03:00In present situation I think that the only way in ...In present situation I think that the only way in order to end this horror war was stop it immediatley. And after do the best through ONU for finding a solution. If all canĀ“t do that we continue assisting by tv reporters the horribles deaths on both sides. And adding all efforts in order the ONU let us down with its ambiguities.<BR/>Ending I hope that only the PEACE could save all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9045462.post-1153332892578280762006-07-19T21:14:00.000+03:002006-07-19T21:14:00.000+03:00Sandra - I accept your sociological explanation bu...Sandra - I accept your sociological explanation but I guess I'm too cynical (comes with old age I guess) to find comfort in lies, even when these lies give a warm a fuzzy feeling. And I agree we're doing the best we can at the moment but I still think that we will need to deal with Iran at some point, and it better be sooner rather than later.<BR/><BR/>Anonymous - I hope you're right, but I'm afraid you're not. This war by proxy is not enough, in its current format, to deal with the Iranian problem.Sharvulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04287632945558341969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9045462.post-1153318581410634422006-07-19T17:16:00.000+03:002006-07-19T17:16:00.000+03:00dont you sort of feel that this war is really betw...dont you sort of feel that this war is really between Iran and Uncle Sam???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9045462.post-1153304207433407502006-07-19T13:16:00.000+03:002006-07-19T13:16:00.000+03:00Sharvul,What do you mean by "going after the sourc...Sharvul,<BR/>What do you mean by "going after the source of the problem (Syria, Iran) " ? Airforce strikes? What kind of "world backing" - don't we always ask for support from the world- but don't get it promptly, if at all? Under the circumstances, aren't we just doing the best we can?<BR/>As for the "double talk" official statements, what do you expect? In times of war the leadership has to inspire some kind of hope. We naturally rally round and unite. We want to hear our PM saying he is fighting to get the soldiers back - even though in our hearts we fear they are gonners under the circumstances. We want to hear that our air campaign is effective and that there is at least a hope of crushing the hezbollah. <BR/>I just re-read your post and realize that I don't actually disagree with most off it. I just see things from a more "social science " perspective. You mention being perplexed by the short menory of Israelis but I think that we just react in a natural way to a virtually hopeless situation. <BR/>I am very concerned about the effects our our air campaign on the Lebanese people and world support.The hezbollah are going to rocket us and threat to blot us out whatever- which brings me back to your comment about targeting the source- Syria , Iran. How do we get to them?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9045462.post-1153237429312810272006-07-18T18:43:00.000+03:002006-07-18T18:43:00.000+03:00Anonymous,Actually, I think our goverment is doing...Anonymous,<BR/><BR/>Actually, I think our goverment is doing more or less the right things, give the circustances. If anything, I would have advocated a more radical approach, going after the source of the problem (Syria, Iran) and not the symptom (Hezbollah). This can be done only with world backing (or at least US backing) and only at the beginning, not now.<BR/><BR/>What I cannot stand, and this is what my post is about, is the "double talk" that goes on and the worthless promises made to the Israeli public. As if an air campaign can solve the Hezbollah problem, or as if a buffer zone with no IDF presence will be in any shape or form effective. If you decide to go for a limited solution, at least be fair enough to admit it and set expectations accordingly.Sharvulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04287632945558341969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9045462.post-1153235778537148412006-07-18T18:16:00.000+03:002006-07-18T18:16:00.000+03:00I am use to not agreeing with your thoughts and fe...I am use to not agreeing with your thoughts and feelings, and usually i just stay quiet. however, today i feel that you are being very unfair.i have to ask you though, under these circumstances, how would you have liked the goverment to react? what do you feel should have been done?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9045462.post-1153161970427326992006-07-17T21:46:00.000+03:002006-07-17T21:46:00.000+03:00Sorry my friend, you just don't get it. I wont eve...Sorry my friend, you just don't get it. I wont even bother will full comment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com